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Post by cantyakwithoutbeer on Jul 27, 2009 16:44:50 GMT -5
I'll stand corrected on the Canoe thing, that sounds like a really cool canoe rig you've got there Mitchell. How much does that weigh? Do you have the 8 footer?
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Post by Ken Corbett on Jul 27, 2009 20:17:41 GMT -5
The line between canoes and kayaks is blurred, and canoes and kayaks are merging with a lot of playboat styles that could be one or the other.
Then you get the Blisstic (sp) type boats that are only a foot or so longer than the seated person. I've seen children skitter like waterbugs where I wouldn't go in my tub.
I think carrying capacity is essential. I know I've run out of essentials after packing too light a few times.
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Post by ryanward10 on Jul 28, 2009 7:29:28 GMT -5
Ahh yes, carrying capacity. I have to agree with you there Ken. I can easily pack 300lbs of gear for a week in my 16ft kayak, but once loaded it won't run fast moving water safely. I could paddle it at high speed across a lake or bay in 4-5ft swells and have no more trouble than motion sickness, and I can handle the bigger rivers if i'm not loaded heavy. But for the smaller, twisty, rock filled rivers and streams I have to drop down to the 11ft kayak in order to turn quickly enough and I cannot pack for an overnight in the small yak. On those trips one canoe could support 3-4 small kayaks by carrying the bigger heavier gear, but you just can't do it overnight without the canoe.
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Post by mitchell on Jul 28, 2009 10:26:53 GMT -5
CYWB...I have the 11.5 model. It weighs 51 lbs. Now that the waters are finally warming up I can go back to practicing the roll. I might post a video on rolling once I get a little better at it.
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Post by cantyakwithoutbeer on Jul 28, 2009 15:09:17 GMT -5
Yeah man, definately post it that would be really cool. That's a really good weight for a canoe. My yak is a 12 footer and it weighs in at 43 pounds which isn't that much lighter all things considered. I'd be really interested in checking out a boat like that to add into my aresenal. A little 8-12 foot canoe would come in handy for some trips I think.
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Post by mitchell on Jul 28, 2009 19:26:22 GMT -5
You're more than welcome to come take it for a paddle some time. I'm on the headpond so you can try it here.
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Post by cantyakwithoutbeer on Jul 29, 2009 19:52:31 GMT -5
I might have to take you up on that offer sometime mitchell! What part of the headpond do you live on? My friend and I have been trying to pull together a camping trip on "Bare Ass Island" all year now but have been hindered by mother nature each time
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bobd
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Post by bobd on Mar 11, 2011 21:27:34 GMT -5
I've read a lot of people complain about their kayaks being uncomfortable, or they like the ability to move around in their canoe. I'll be honest, I haven't spent much time in a canoe, but for the past year I've been spending a lot of time in my Ocean Kayak Trident 13, so I can speak from that perspective.
I'm a big guy and I can stiffen up pretty good if I'm confined to a tight spot, or am unable to move around. I probably drive some co-workers nuts when I get up from my desk frequently to take a short stroll, or to stretch. Despite all of that, I've managed to sit in my kayak all day long and I found it comfortable. The Trident 13 is a sit-on-top kayak, and gives my great flexibility in sitting. I can sit with my legs stretched straight out, or over each side. It's a stable boat, so I can sit with both feet over one side and just enjoy the drift. Although I've never done it, I've seen people standing up and fishing from them (including fly fishing). Very stable.
They also have lots of room for cargo. The Trident 13 is rated for a 450lb cargo capacity, so there is lots of weight allowances.
Of course there are trade offs. It's not as fast as the kayaks designed for speed. If I do flip it... well you don't roll back upright (though you aren't going to sink it, so you can just climb back on board)
Is a kayak better than a canoe? Well I can't answer that. I can say that I am very pleased with my kayak, and I can't wait for spring!!
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