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Post by Ken Corbett on Dec 15, 2008 20:33:04 GMT -5
www.wildernesscleanup.com/These folks have been in touch with me, asking if there is anyone interested in organizing and executing a local river clean-up in New Brunswick. If you have entertained thoughts of de-trashing your favorite river run, stop by their site. You may discover an idea or two to motivate you and make it real. Personally, I feel if we all take out our own trash, and a few handfuls of other folks' to fill our garbage bags, it's gotta make a difference. How bad is it here in New Brunswick, anyway? Has anyone here come across a riverbank or a campsite that has been really trashed? In the last few years? Ken
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Post by Hillbilly on Dec 15, 2008 21:04:38 GMT -5
Two years ago where the nashwaak passes under the power lines near route 8 in Durham ther where three tents, sleeping bags, flashlights, stove, cooler with spoiled food all other kinds of scattered clothing and broken bottles. The tents where in rough shape we put all clothing and anything not garbage in the tents and carted off all the junk and as much glass as possible.
Went by there again a couple weeks after and the tents where gone but lots of garbage again mostly cans.
Some people don't think
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Post by ldmrt on Dec 22, 2008 9:59:04 GMT -5
The Restigouche is horrible during the summer. People are pigs when they are drunk and just don't give a d**n! I'm thinking of taking a run down there this coming season(it's been almost 10 years since the last time), but it'll be during the week or early or late in the season, when there aren't hoards of drunken idiots around.
There are people paid to clean up the campsites along the river, but they are just overwelmed by the amount of garbage left behind. Some people will just get up in the morning and instead of packing up their campsite, they just get in their canoe with their coolers of beer and leave everything else behind. Discusting!
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Post by gnashwalker on Dec 22, 2008 12:42:01 GMT -5
Yeah linda, I've heard that about the Restigouche. That river is runnable almost all summer long, so a lot more folks use it than say the Miramichi or more rivers "down south." But I've come across the Trout Brook campsite on the Miramichi in May after the Victoria Day weekend a few years back and was not impressed with the way I found it.
Wish there was something we could do other than just pick up after them.
Gnash
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Post by ldmrt on Dec 22, 2008 21:39:08 GMT -5
I'm thinking 10 lashes with a wet noodle? *wink*
Seriously, stricter regulations about who and when people can run. Checking how much garbage each canoer comes back with? I don't know what to do.
There are hundreds of boats on the go each weekend, there's no way a police presence could do much either. It's a Canadian Heritage River; it's such a shame!
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Post by Ken Corbett on Dec 23, 2008 9:28:39 GMT -5
When I last went down the Restigouche, we passed by a warden who was passing out garbage bags. At least it was a presence with a message.
Is there a landing half-way where paddlers could drop off garbage? If they separated their cans and bottles and left them there beside their garbage, that might pay for a local resident to haul out the garbage and drop it off for pickup. Gas money, at least. There must be a fortune in empty beer cans after a few groups come down the river.
Ken
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Post by ldmrt on Dec 23, 2008 17:25:54 GMT -5
There is a fortune to be made and there are places that you can leave your garbage. Most campgrounds are cleaned by the people hired to stock them with firewood. However, instead of people bagging up their garbage, they just leave it lying around, and it makes those people's jobs just that more difficult. They just don't have the time or resourses to clean all the garbage if it's not bagged for them. They do as good of a job as they can, but it's nowhere near enough.
People just don't care. They get on the river to party and don't give a crap about anything else, just their good time.
Fines and charges on their criminal records would be what I would do if I was in charge of it. I hate people who litter!
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Post by Hillbilly on Dec 30, 2008 22:34:24 GMT -5
If only they could nail somone on these big runs, it's amazing how they could have a great time on a river and destroy it at the same time,.
Iran into some younger fellas on the river last year they offered me a bottle o beer i had one with them i wondered why the had bottles (cans don't break) then the fools broke them i protested they went a little too far and it almost ended up in a fist fight. Bunch of dummies.
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Post by Ken Corbett on Dec 31, 2008 15:18:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that's prolly why they don't have enforcement out there, no one wants to lay down the law to a drunken crowd out in the boonies.
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Post by Hillbilly on Jan 11, 2009 12:21:34 GMT -5
Could get messy quick, that's when you need you'r bear spray(just kidding). Even sprayed on the ground that stuff is killer, poor Mitchell sniffed a rock i sprayed once, long story short someone ended up with his face in a dog dish.hahahha
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