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Post by Ken Corbett on May 5, 2008 14:30:36 GMT -5
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Post by kyle on May 5, 2008 17:12:51 GMT -5
if it was a minor problem i would leave it, if i thought it was going to cause more than and inconvenient swim for someone, i would consider removing it. is that mark in the picture?
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Bones
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Post by Bones on May 5, 2008 18:01:59 GMT -5
To be very picky, if it was not hazardous I would say it is "unethical" to remove the trees simply to make it an easier paddle. Sweepers like that create ripples, deep eddy pools, aerate the water, create woody debris, slowly alter the river shape, etc... - in other words they provide very healthy ecological benefits. Check out this doc if you want (it's from Australia but explains it all very well): www.rivers.gov.au/library/scripts/objectifyMedia.aspx?file=pdf/92/73.pdf&siteID=14&str_title=Fact%20Sheet%207%20-%20Managing%20Woody%20Debris%20in%20Rivers.pdfHowever, compare a couple of sweepers removed a year by concientous canoeists versus putting in a golf course, laying down a new ATV trail, crossing rivers in pickups & ATVs etc... Overall - very ethical compared to the other changes made by humans in the name of recreation.
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Post by tickles on Jun 19, 2009 14:22:20 GMT -5
Is it ethical To make portage trails around unrunable rapids? I know of one I would like to see spruced up a little with out going overboard. I guess one could always talk to the land owner as well but trying to find out who to talk to would be quite the chore.
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Post by Ken Corbett on Jun 20, 2009 8:40:02 GMT -5
I'd say if you have to cut a tree, then you need to see the landowner. I'd be p...ed if someone cut down trees on my property without asking.
But if it's just moving a couple of logs, or two or three "alders,' well it might not be so bad. Depends on the scope of the job, I guess.
So tickles. tell us where this trail is. Don't be a tease.
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Post by tickles on Jun 21, 2009 9:00:09 GMT -5
There is only one place on the upper Nashwaak that could use a official portage trail on the right bank while running down river . I Assume that it its crown land or maybe Irving owned. Most of what needs moved is dead fall. Last trip down the Croix I had a chainsaw in my kayak which I did not even use. Now that I know it fits I think I would take it down the upper Nashwaak next time. Last thing I would want to see would be a clear cut operation, Just some gentle sculpting of a narrow path.
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Post by tickles on Jun 21, 2009 9:02:50 GMT -5
Heck at least a nice little sign hanging from a tree saying portage would be nice as well.
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