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Post by Jamie on May 30, 2010 17:27:11 GMT -5
Tom, Pat and I spent a few nights on the St. Croix over the weekend. The water was disgustingly low but we crashed and banged our way from the Spendic Lake camp ground to Loon Bay. more pics here: outdoors.webshots.com/album/577817654WhRnHLJamie
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Post by northwoods on May 31, 2010 4:51:48 GMT -5
Looks like you had fun Jamie. Nice to see someone else paddling a wood/canvas boat. How big is it?
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Post by Jamie on May 31, 2010 5:41:12 GMT -5
Looks like you had fun Jamie. Nice to see someone else paddling a wood/canvas boat. How big is it? Hey Jeff, The canoe is a 17 1/2 ft long Atkinson Traveller. www.wooden-canoes.com/canoes/atkinson.htmIt is likely very similar to your canoe but a foot shorter. It now needs some minor TLC and hopefully it will be good as new. Jamie
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Post by northwoods on May 31, 2010 6:22:06 GMT -5
You may already know this, but for any small tears Ambroid glue really works well. Bonds really well to canvas/wood, drys quickly and is waterproof. Just shellack (or paint) over it when done and you're good to go. And remember, wood/canvas boats are meant to be worked and are not holy relics that some would have you believe.
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Post by northwoods on May 31, 2010 6:54:41 GMT -5
Jamie I just checked out the link to your boat. Really nice and yes pretty much like mine. The White molds that it looks like NWC use are narrower in the bow and stern than mine. Makes them a bit faster on flat water which is nice, but they go through the rough stuff a lot deeper than the modified White molds where the bow and stern have been widened out. I like the wider flare after the stem because the boat rides higher in big water and tends to ship less water into the boat. How do you find your White in fast water?
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Post by Jamie on May 31, 2010 8:52:14 GMT -5
Jamie I just checked out the link to your boat. Really nice and yes pretty much like mine. The White molds that it looks like NWC use are narrower in the bow and stern than mine. Makes them a bit faster on flat water which is nice, but they go through the rough stuff a lot deeper than the modified White molds where the bow and stern have been widened out. I like the wider flare after the stem because the boat rides higher in big water and tends to ship less water into the boat. How do you find your White in fast water? The Traveller actually performed above my expectations in the moving/white water. I didn't take on a drop going through Little Falls. The bottom is rather roundish compared to a flatter bottom canoe like an Ogilvy or even the plastic Trippers and Disc 169. Initially it feels a little tippy but it has great secondary stability. The high bow allows the canoe to cut through the waves without much issues but as with many canoes the wind did have its way with me on a few occaisions. JP
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Post by northwoods on May 31, 2010 9:17:34 GMT -5
Jamie Are you learning how to pole? And if so, you must find it tippy when slowly snubbing it down stream. The rangers in Maine take those flat bottomed XL Trippers and put a piece of 2x4 in for a centre thwart to increase the beam. You could teach a square dancing class in the rips in those things. JB
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Post by Jamie on Jun 1, 2010 7:09:03 GMT -5
I bring a pole with me Jeff but I didn't even bother to try it out on this trip. I knew the outcome would be the usual failure when I try to pole so I saved myself the hassel.
I did paddle it standing for awhile, it felt pretty good. the tippy part goes away once you get your balance.
jp
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Post by northwoods on Jun 1, 2010 8:33:35 GMT -5
Jamie With a bigger boat like yours poling opens up a lot of water that most people think can't be run because they have small boats (16') and can't pole. I pole Crooked Rips on the SWM a couple times a week. When you're free come on up and we can go out a knock around. It's 15 mins from my place and there's miles of good water out there that no one uses. Send me an email if you want to set something up. Jeff
JB
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