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Post by Ken Corbett on Mar 19, 2013 11:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by fraserdw on Mar 19, 2013 11:28:52 GMT -5
Pissed, I am disgusted!!! Well named though, this is very much part of why there are fewer and fewer fish. No fish can breathe in muddy water!
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Post by robertjohnneish on Mar 19, 2013 11:41:46 GMT -5
Aren't those "outdoorsmen"? You know, people who love to fish and hunt and grew up spending all kinds of time outdoors so they know what they are doing? You don't mean to tell me that this type of outdoor activity can have a negative effect on the natural world?
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Post by ryanward10 on Mar 19, 2013 14:39:42 GMT -5
It was nearly 10 years ago. Hopefully we've all matured and come to appreciate the value of leaving the land undisturbed.
In large scale terms, the Upper Nashwaak valley has been so heavily logged that it turns muddy with every rain storm, and you can't blame that on ATVers.
Maybe our grandchildren will find fish again if we can manage to stop damaging the rivers now.
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Post by fraserdw on Mar 19, 2013 14:53:50 GMT -5
Doubtful, the number of ATVs has nearly doubled since 2003. The big issue with ATVs is the lack of respect of responsibility they have once 3 feet out of sight of law enforcement. I do not just mean the kids, there are dozens of working adults who become "tools on tools" once they get out there. I have beer bottles thrown at me on the water by middle aged adults who stopped their ATVs on a bridge. I would have them take a 2 weekend manadatory course in ecology before even be allowed purchase an ATV. Here 4 months ago ATV River Crossing in Sussex): www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7EHKi8ZNEI do agree with the large scale terms as well, that needs to be corrected, the forestry practices are there to make the forest more sustainable. I think the big issue is that true sustainability would cut the jobs in half and Irving would be come a much smaller player. |
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Post by ryanward10 on Mar 21, 2013 14:06:15 GMT -5
Double the ATVs huh? Well nevermind then, no cause for hope on that front yet. I guess we'll just need to howl at them for awhile yet until the balance tips. Some men you just can't reach.
And as for forest sustainability, I believe that 1/2 the jobs, and 1/2 the Irving Empire is better than no jobs, and no Irving. But nobody ever believes that they're behaving in an unsustainable way until things collapse. I notice that St. Anne de Nackawic are the ones mostly in the Nashwaak Valley, I don't believe they subscribe or adhere to any certification or sustainability programs.
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Post by dbradford on Mar 30, 2013 22:21:40 GMT -5
Trout? Man there are more trout now than when I was a kid. Teens these days are not out trudging through the streams and hitting the lakes. They are all 'connected'. Fishing is better now than I have ever seen it. That said, maybe we should be trying a bit harder to get kids out into the wild so they can get some respect for what Mother Nature has to provide.
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Post by Ken Corbett on Mar 31, 2013 9:03:37 GMT -5
Okay DB, I'll take your word for it. I'll pack along my fly rod on my trips again this spring, and if I strike out, your ears will be burning! lol
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