Bones
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Post by Bones on Jul 13, 2006 16:42:07 GMT -5
Last Saturday, July 8th, I managed to get my night paddle in!
I rented a beautiful 16' Esquif Prospecteur from Canoes Restigouche and put in at the Kedgwick junction at 10 pm. 13 hours and 90 km later I finished at the rafting ground.
Monday was a full moon and the forecast Sat night called for clear skies, when I saw the combination I just had to go for it. For the first half of the night (till about 2 am) the moon was so bright it was casting my shadow in front of me. It wasn't a problem navigating the fast waters (they're not quite worthy of the name rapids).
From roughly 2:45 till 4:30 however it was close to pitch black as the moon had set. Still, the stars gave a moderate amount of light - and the sceneray was absolutely breathtaking. So incredibly peaceful with almost no noise, just me and the faint reflections on the river and the gurlgling of the current over the rocks.
It was, however, annoying to look at the map going okay there's suppose to be an island in front of me and I'm suppose to go right ... where's the island... and then I ran into it :-)!
The one section I didn't want to hit when it was too dark, Tom's Brook, I didn't get too till about 5:30 am when there was plenty of light.
Best of all, I managed to avoid almost everyone. I only saw one fishing boat that was mooring at 10:15 pm, and then didn't see another on the river till 8 am the next day. Can you imagine any other time when you could paddle 10 hours on the Restigouch in mid July and not be surrounded by others?
In fact, the next morning I paddled by a campsite with 56, FIFTY-SIX tents!!!! URGH!!! At that moment I was so glad I had gone at night.
So if anyone is ever up for a night paddle I highly recommend it, just make sure to do a route you've done before, there's a clear sky with decent moon and star light, and little (or better yet) no rapids. Also remember that if you tip for whatever reason you might not be able to find your canoe at night - so make sure you have enough on you to be comfortable that night.
Cheers, Bones
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Post by navigator on Jul 13, 2006 17:47:31 GMT -5
that sounds like a fantastic time!
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tgneal
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Post by tgneal on Jul 13, 2006 21:10:02 GMT -5
Hey Bones, That sounds like it was a great trip. What are the water levels like this time of year on the Restigouche?
Keep on paddlin' Tom
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ldmrt
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Post by ldmrt on Jul 18, 2006 13:00:42 GMT -5
water levels are good on the restigouche right now, but there are so many boats that there's hardly any free water left. There's been tons of complaints about garbage, fights and outhouses being set on fire..... unless you do a night trip as Bones suggested, you will hate it... unless you just wish to get drunk like all the other idiots on that river. It's a terrible shame, and I pity the people who have to make their living on the river, when there are such idiots there. I'm sure that they wouldn't appreciate the salmon guides going to their place of work and throwing beer cans and garbage at them, while cursing and then shaking their privates at them. There is no respect on the Restigouche River at all! Something really has to be done about it. That's my little blog about the Restigouche.
Linda
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Post by Ken Corbett on Jul 21, 2006 8:52:02 GMT -5
I went down the Kedgwick-Restigouche with my wife a few years back, and after our first wet night on the Kedgwick, we had to dry our tent out. We stopped at the junction of the Kedg and the Gouche to spread our tent out on the beach and shake it to get the worst of the water off, and two beefy guides came up to me menacingly within seconds, tellng us we couldn't stop here. I just couldn't persuade them that we weren't staying more than ten minutes. They glowered at us, standing two feet away, and practically pushed us back into the water.
So I can understand how the fisherfolk and camp owners feel about the fleets of drunken fools who terrify their river. I confess I too have been among the drunken louts on the river, sailing down with dozens of quarts of cold beer once upon a time. So I see it from both sides, I guess.
People are going to party, I don't think we want anyone to stop partying. Nothing wrong with a good hoot, except for the hangover. It wouldn't be so bad if folks made sure their campsite's clean when they leave in the morning, and pack out their beer cans. Burying the business is also a good idea.
I'm lecturing again, I know, but someone's gotta do it.
Ken
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tgneal
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Post by tgneal on Jul 21, 2006 13:28:20 GMT -5
Sage advice
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ldmrt
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Post by ldmrt on Jul 21, 2006 21:47:57 GMT -5
I'm not saying there should be an end to partying either, because I've floated that river too, with many cans of cold beer in my cooler but I've also had the decency to ask where I could float through the salmon pools when they were fishing and we ALWAYS picked our garbage as well as many other peoples. It just makes no sense not to because there are drop off sites along the river for your garbage, so you don't have to take it with you for the whole trip. There are two people who's jobs it is to clean the campsites and pick up the bagged garbage. However, they end up having to pick up scattered garbage. This seems to be the worst year yet for horror stories from the Restigouche this year.... canoes left behind, people just getting up and getting in their canoe, not packing a thing, even leaving steak in the frying pan and the tent and all their gear behind. Two young fellows drank so much that they passed out while floating until somebody eventually hauled them to shore, and they didn't even wake up until the next morning!!! It's a terrible shame because it is a beautiful river, a Canadian Heritage river no less, but it will soon be ruined for all!
Linda
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Bones
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Post by Bones on Jul 24, 2006 17:33:29 GMT -5
Hey Tom,
Just like Linda said - the water levels are fine, if a bit low, but you won't want to put up with the crowd. Two weekends ago (July 15-16) I went down the Upsalquitch with my fiancee - water was just high enough and it was an absolutely beautiful trip. Until we got to the bottom populated part we only saw 11 people total. The same weekend there were roughly 200 canoes + numerous motor/fishing boats on the Restigouche.
Linda put up a great post under trip reports: "NW Upsalquitch River". If you're in the area I'd definptely recommend this trip. Save the Restigouche for the spring before the crowds arrive. Although I've also heard that if you go down during the week there are not that many people.
Still Paddlin! Bones
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Post by kedgwick on Apr 11, 2007 13:16:32 GMT -5
As an ex-guide for Arpin Canoe Restigouche and an avid paddler who tries to make the treck up from Moncton a few times a year to do the Kedgwick and Restigouche rivers, I understand where most of you are coming from. There are some total idiots out there. Then again, there always were, but for years the Reparians paid people to pick up after them on Mondays. Since the Reparians went the way of the Buffalo, the trash left by these people can be unreal (I'll post a pic of our group of friends from July 9th 2006 and the garbage we picked up from Gilmore Island).
However, as an ex-citizen of Kedgwick, I will have you know that July 1st weekend on the Restigouche is not a family vacation. The same could even be said for the following weekend. You wouldn't expect a peaceful beach in Daytona in the middle of Spring Break, would you? Anybody who wants peace and quiet on the Restigouche can find it on any other weekend.
Of course, the River is more and more popular, so many people with deferent agendas meet on its waves, from the drunken idiots to the uptight snobs to the fun loving eco-tourists (my fav.) and of course, the fishermen, who can run the gamut from pleasant to evil. If seclusion is what you want, try the Gounamitz, Kedgwick (two branches), Upsalquitch and the Little Main (upper Restigouche from Saint-Quentin) in May and June. The Restigouche is also great (although colder) in June and if you can deal with the low water, early August is pretty quiet. In fact, some friends of mine enjoyed a day trip in October 2006 after lots of rainfall raised the river's level.
In the past two years, efforts have been made by Kedwick's mayor, Jean-Paul Savoie, as well as André Arpin, to set up a coalition designed to protect the river and take care of its infrastructure. Arpin has even gone out of his way to construct new outhouse facilities where others were burnt down. I like to have fun on Canada Day Weekend but I have never, ever had a problem with any other paddler and I and my crew (most of whom are Kedwick and Saint-Quentin natives) have always picked up not only our own trash, but that of others. So this year, if you ever see a bunch of tattooed French twenty-somethings in a group of 20 or more, give us a shout, we're much nicer than you might think.
End rant.
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Post by Ken Corbett on Apr 12, 2007 12:29:05 GMT -5
Kedgwick, Great rant, you should do it as often as you like. I've always thought people who threw litter were "special" in a certain way only. I have no respect for those people. I do respect people who pick up their own trash. And I revere the people who pick up other peoples' trash. Besides, when I pick up litter these days, it's payback for all those times way back then when I hadn't yet learned to respect nature. I clean up other folks' messes today to make up for the messes I left behind in the past. There's my rant. Next? Ken
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ldmrt
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Post by ldmrt on Apr 16, 2007 15:47:53 GMT -5
I have to disagree with the statement that there is no garbage collection along the restigouche because I know people who have that unpleasant task as their job; they deserve a big "2 Thumbs Up" from everybody, should even be profiled on the Discovery Channel's "Dirtiest Jobs" show, IMHO. One of the workers has told stories of coming to Gilmore Island campground and finding a whole campsite, including canoe, just left there. There was clothing, the tent was set up with sleeping bags and there was even a steak in the frying pan! It was just as if there had been a UFO come along and sucked the people up. When the rented canoe had been traced back, the parents of the young adults said " My son wouldn't have done that!" and nothing was done about it, instead of being charged for littering(up to $1000 fine I believe???) Perhaps if some people were made held accountable, there would be less littering and mess. There could be weekends that it is quiet along the Restigouche, but I don't believe I've heard of many in the past few years. If it's not the canoes heading up river, it's the townies going upriver in their motorized canoe for a day of drinking and partying. I think they can be one of the worst bunch of people to meet up with if you work on the river. They just don't realize the amount of money that is left in the area by those #$%^ americans. There is alot of talk about the amount of our young people who are heading west to greener pastures because there are no jobs in the area, well if those $%^& americans stop coming to fish this area will be a ghost town, or retirement area because in addition to the jobs that are created directly on the river there is all the spin offs, such as the money spent at grocery stores, car dealerships(most camp vehicles are bought locally), gas stations, etc. Then the workers of the camps all spend their money locally as well. Not many people realize how much those $%^& americans affect their lives and how it would all spiral out of control if they were to leave and stop coming and spending their money here. Not to sound too "glass half empty" but I could see that happening sometime soon because they are starting to get fed up! And nobody can convince me that the tourism of the Restigouche(canoe rentals) is going to make up the difference in money that comes to an area that has it in short supply already.
Well that's my rant.... Anybody else happy to see that ice melt away and see that lovely clear water shining in the sun? It's been a long winter and I for one can't wait to get a weekend after the ice all melts away to go canoeing!
Linda
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Post by kedgwick on Apr 18, 2007 17:30:49 GMT -5
I didn't mean to say nobody was cleaning up on the Restigouche, but that the previous infrastructure collapsed, and the difference has been apparent these last few years. Gilmore was a warzone the last time I stopped there. Hell, the ONLY reason we stopped on the last day of our trip was to pick up the garbage strewn about the entire island (so glad we always bring a box of garbage bags just in case). Anywho, I hope the Restigouche Watershed Management Council will manage to get some seasonal employees to get things back to the way they were.
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Post by kedgwick on Apr 20, 2007 14:01:32 GMT -5
This is us with the garbage we picked up from Gilmore in July '06. We hauled it all down to the warden's station at Two Brooks. It was pretty smelly, but well worth the effort.
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